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Running IP Cameras on a Power Over Co-ax (POC) DVR?

R_M

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Hi all, I am newly registered on here, but have been looking at posts on here for a while.
I recently installed a DS-7208HUHI-K2-P POC DVR (8mp/8 chan), along with X2 black 2.8mm 5MP POC colourvu cameras (DS-2CE72HFT-E). Initially I was very impressed with the system. I very quickly however questioned if I’d made the right choice. I had spoken with various ‘Experts’ prior to my purchase and was very much under the impression this system would be a hybrid. Enabling both POC and IP cameras through the same DVR.
It quickly became apparent as the cold nights wore off and the moths came back out the system was picking up multiple false alarms, despite numerous trips up to the loft to play with the sensitivity, I was still having issues.
Shortly after this someone in my house spotted someone from the road eyeing up the house. The chap was no more than 20–25meters from the camera, but the image of his face was pretty poor for a 5mp camera. Checked all setting and have made some tweaks which have upped the quality somewhat.
My initial plan with system was to have a couple of self installed and setup cameras, using a friends account to order the items needed and build upon that. I set about looking at other cameras Hik sell, this is where my first found my unexpected problem. Hikvision must be one of the only companies who I’ve come across who make it near on impossible to find out what cameras they do, and in what case colour. The case colour is especially important as I only want black cameras, not grey or white. I was unable to find anywhere online with a definitive list of cameras available to order, including lens sizes and case colours. The Hik US Site was better, but still no lens sizes. I note in the specs for most cameras they make reference to camera within range with larger lenses. I had hoped to find some black POC colourvu’s, possibly a 3.6mm lens, my thinking being that may be clearer over a longer range. I am very much a hands on person and kept being deflected to people who want to supply and fit, I won’t pay someone £300+ a day to do something I am able to do myself, in addition the best way for me to learn about something is by fitting it.
I am now keen to utilise the Acusense cameras and note they’re all IP camera. This is where I found my second problem. I am now of the understanding, that while I can run IP cameras through my DVR, I wouldn’t be able to take full advantage of the smart feature, such as the acusense. Can anyone confirm this for me? I had planned to run a couple of POE routers and network them back to the DVR. I wanted to have Acusense covering the road, set for human, and cars over a certain line, and a selection of other cameras, including the micro turret and at least one PTZ.
My thinking now is I may need an NVR for my use case? If i do, which one can people recommend based up on the above? Many thanks in advance for an help and apologies for the first post being a rambling one.
Rup
 

Phil

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Hi,
I believe that you can get analogue AccuSense cameras?
But, I may be wrong as we only deal with IP cameras.

For an Accusense IP camera we would recommend that you use a 7608-I NVR:
 

R_M

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Hi,
I believe that you can get analogue AccuSense cameras?
But, I may be wrong as we only deal with IP cameras.

For an Accusense IP camera we would recommend that you use a 7608-I NVR:
Thanks for getting back to me Phil. I am really unsure myself, I had told prior to buying my current DVR that would be able to. I have been having a real tough time finding anyone who can supply a categorical list of available cameras. Something I am truly baffled by.
 

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@Phil @R_M AcuSense is available on HDTVi but it is in the DVR not the camera. Unfortunately the AcuSense DVRs don't have PoC so you'd need to not only replace the DVR but route 12V supplies to the cameras. If the existing installation was in RG59 that could be a lot of work for you. If it was in CAT5E with Baluns it's an easy change. Off topic - but the better 5MP HDTVi cameras are not available in PoC. The ultra low light (0.03 lux as opposed to 0.1 lux) models are 12V only.
 

R_M

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Thanks for the replied. I have as suggested ordered an I series NVR along with a 4tb Hd.
I’m not sure if this warrants another post or I anyone can help within this. As you may be able to tell I am speccing and fitting all my own equipment. I am pretty IT savvy, I am not however a network guy, therefore learning as I go on that side.
So my current DVR is connect to the web via a D-link DWR921, and I view the vast majority of any footage I get remotely via Hik-Connect.
The videos working fine and the connection on 4G seems stable and of good speed.
I have noticed the ability to speed up footage is blanked out within the app. My homework suggests this is due to the DDNS not being configured.
I set about trying to get this configured and feel I’ve hit a wall. All the videos I have seen suggest it’s simply a case of filling in appropriate sections in config menu within Hik-Connect. However I keep getting a timeout. What I am reading tells me I need to open a port on the router, and also something about needing a static IP. I’ve been bashing my head on this on and off for last couple of weeks. Can anyone help, or suggest someone I can find simple instructions for the aforementioned? Thanks I’m advance.
 

R_M

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Can anyone offer any guidance? I’m at the end of my tether with the IP Stuff. While it might be more reliable in terms of notifications, it’s a pig from a config standpoint.
DS-7608NI-I2/8P 12MP 8 Port PoE NVR running a Toshiba S300 4TB Surveillance 3.5" Hard Drive
Linked in is just ONE DS-2CD2386G2-ISU/SL
Issues are:
Cant playback footage via Hik-Connect, or directly from the NVR without the video skipping. The bits that can be played do to have audio either when played on app.
The 2 way audio doesn’t stay connected when in live view. The image however is near on perfect in live view, both on the NVR and Hik-Connect.
unable to set up area for smart event, the screen is just black when the camera image is.
Have spent best part of 2 hours in the loft messing around can’t find the problem.
I now wanna go back to the loft and do a video of me smashing the bloody thing up and posting it online as a product review.
 

JB1970

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Can anyone offer any guidance? I’m at the end of my tether with the IP Stuff. While it might be more reliable in terms of notifications, it’s a pig from a config standpoint.
DS-7608NI-I2/8P 12MP 8 Port PoE NVR running a Toshiba S300 4TB Surveillance 3.5" Hard Drive
Linked in is just ONE DS-2CD2386G2-ISU/SL
Issues are:
Cant playback footage via Hik-Connect, or directly from the NVR without the video skipping. The bits that can be played do to have audio either when played on app.
The 2 way audio doesn’t stay connected when in live view. The image however is near on perfect in live view, both on the NVR and Hik-Connect.
unable to set up area for smart event, the screen is just black when the camera image is.
Have spent best part of 2 hours in the loft messing around can’t find the problem.
I now wanna go back to the loft and do a video of me smashing the bloody thing up and posting it online as a product review.
All most likely down to settings: First check the video parameters for the camera in the NVR menu.
  • set to H265
  • In the drop down set to Video & Audio. Do that for both main and sub stream
  • Ensure that the main stream normal and main stream event both have the same settings with regard to frame rate and bit rate.
  • In the storage menu bring up the schedule, click Advanced. In the pop up panel ensure record audio is checked
  • In the same window as above change the pre alarm from 5 seconds to 0 seconds (this along with different settings in video parameters is the most likely cause if skipping)
  • Let us know what video parameters you currently have set
 
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